404. Living Aligned with Your Spirit - Jessie Herman channels Vagrein

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Kara Goodwin: Welcome to soul elevation, where you can guide your Ascension to new heights. I'm your host, Cara Goodwin,

okay. I was just talking to Jesse as we were waiting. It's like, it's like six degrees where I am and Jesse's joining us from Italy. In Milan, and I used to live in Italy too, so I'm, I'm vicariously living in the warm spring. She was talking about her tree that is about to bloom and I can't, I can't relate at all.

But, but I'm glad that somebody is experiencing that. So thank you so much for being here, everybody. Thank you so much, Jessie, for being here. I'm so excited to talk to you today. Me too. I'm very excited. Thank you for having me. Yes. Okay. I want to do just a little reading of your bio before we get started.

And then [00:01:00] just for everybody who's joining. If you're here with us on the zoom, you will have an opportunity to ask questions. Um, I think what we'll do is we'll, we'll do just a little introduction of Jesse and a little talking with Jesse, and then we'll get into channeling and then we can open up the floor for, if you guys have questions, you're welcome to come in and ask.

You can either raise your hand, you can type them in the chat. And if you have questions directly for Jesse, before she starts. Channeling, just type those in the chat and I'm sure we'll get time to get to those too. So, all right, let me read your bio here. So I am so excited to welcome Jesse Herman. Jesse is a multi talented energy worker, healer, and the incredible channel for the non physical collective known as Vagrion.

Through her work, she's helped countless people. Gain clarity, expand their consciousness and align with their highest potential [00:02:00] as a channel. Jesse is a clear conduit for profound wisdom, bridging the gap between the physical and the non physical, whether through her channeled messages, healing sessions, or public talks.

She's dedicated to guiding others on their journey of self awakening of spiritual awakening, even. Today we have the unique opportunity to not only dive into her personal journey, but also receive direct messages from Vagrion. So get ready for an enlightening and expansive conversation. So let's start with a bit about your background and how you came to channel Vagrion.

Hey, so the origin story basically, right? Um, I, uh, I always had some level of extrasensory ability as a child, but as this story goes for many people felt it was better to repress that or to hide it away and to try and be as normal and everyday as possible. When I [00:03:00] began to have my own spiritual awakening after the birth of my daughter.

These gifts came back online, they were not received very well as gifts at first, they were received more such as complications or oh no what's happening to me or what is going on right now and why am I having these experiences. And eventually I really got to a point where in my own seeking journey I felt quite balanced and was having a lot of.

Really beautiful experiences with my spirituality, with the way I was beginning to see the world, but I still had sort of a nagging feeling that there was something more, and that this something more wanted something from me, or wanted me to step into a role. And on my 40th birthday, I got fed up about this request that was coming through quite regularly, and I said, okay, fine, energy, whatever you are, whatever this is, universe, I'm going to prove to you that I'm not the person you're looking for by Following the [00:04:00] instructions that I felt that were coming through, which were to put myself in a channeling type of state, which, of course, at the time, I didn't even know that's what it was.

And, uh, to my great surprise, I set a recording software and Vagrian was talking when I came out of my meditation. So that very quickly got a ball rolling towards doing that more regularly. First of all, because I thought I had gone crazy. And then, um, when I came across other people who did already know a little bit about channeling or were interested in channeling, I realized very quickly that this particular gift wasn't for me directly, and therefore it would be very, um, selfish of me to continue to hide it away in that way.

So that's when I decided, okay, this is something that I guess I'm gonna have to do from now on. And, um, You know, I'm glad that I did make that decision ultimately because it's affected my own life profoundly and in beautiful ways. That's so beautiful. I love all the resistance and then [00:05:00] the like, well, I'll just prove it to you that I can't do it.

And then it's like, uh, actually, okay, I guess, I guess this is a thing. Very humbling. Weird. It should go the other way around, but I was like, Oh, yeah. Well, it's so funny because just in my own. Journey where I am. I'm, I'm like working on trying to receive more and project less in my meditations, for example.

And because I feel like there's too much of me trying to dictate kind of in control what's going on. So I listening to you, I just love that reflection where you're kind of like. I'm just, I'm just not going to do any, like, you're, you're just doing what I'm trying to do. But with the, but with, with this, like, I'm just going to prove that you've got the wrong, you've got the wrong gal.

That's right. Go find another messenger. Right. So what does it feel like for you when you are channeling? [00:06:00] Do you feel that? Do you feel a shift? Is there any emotional component? Are you like gone? Yeah, so it is full trans channeling in my experience for me. So what that means is that I don't really have access to memory with regards to channeling, so I won't remember what's being done.

I sometimes do have experience, um, hardly ever emotional. That's a good question because no one's ever asked me that. So I don't have, I don't have like an emotional, response to anything going on, except maybe towards the beginning, some level of anxiety or caution, you know, so when I was first getting to know Vagrin, I'd be like, what are they about to say?

Oh, no. Um, so that was really the only emotion that comes through. But, um, the analogy I use is it's kind of like when you're a child and maybe you've gone with your parents to their friend's house for dinner, and it's time to go home and you're a little bit sleepy, and they pick you up and stick you in the back of the car, and uh, you're kind of awake, but [00:07:00] not really awake, and you're with someone that you trust, you don't have to drive, you don't need to know which streets you're taking, and somehow you get home, and it's, it's all fine.

But you do know that you were in the car, and you do know that someone was driving it, or you know, that there was that traffic light you stopped at, or whatever it is. So it's a little bit hazy in that kind of way when I'm in trance. But it's very comfortable, kind of like, okay, I'm in the back of the car and I can just relax now.

And in this case, the car would be your brain and body. So it's not just the body that allows the transmission to come through. It is also very much the brain and the configuration of You know, the actual gray matter in the body that allows it to, to, to come through in the way it does. I love that. That's great.

And I love the trust, you know, like the, because that's a wonderful analogy that somebody's driving you and you're, you've kind of handed over your trust. [00:08:00] When we, when we met last time, last time you were on Soul Elevation, well back then it was Meditation Conversation was the name of the podcast, but now we're Soul Elevation.

Um, you, when you were channeling, Vagrian said something about, um, like from the, because of where their, Where they reside, for lack of a better word, or the, the realms that, that they're, the realms that they're in, the energy that they're in, the information that comes through is, they said something like, we understand that we're not their boots on the ground, and we're not having the human experience, so our perspective is, uh, is more conceptual, and therefore it's not always They're really practical in the day to day and in the channeling, you even said, or they even said, even Jesse feels this way [00:09:00] that she, it's not always that practical for her own life.

So I would love for you to talk a little bit about how does the, the information, the insights that you get from Vagrion, how does that relate to your everyday life and the challenges that show up for you? It's a good question, because this actually came up this week as well. So I had, um, somewhat of a like a personal, I guess, you know, you realize you've come to the edge of your of the next step on your staircase.

And I think we all have this on a regular basis. It could happen 10 times a week, it could happen in bigger leaps, or it can happen in, you know, like, almost like you're on a ramp, right? But I came to a step on my staircase of my own evolution. And I knew, because I've been dealing with Vagrant for so long that, You know, the answers that they would give me about what I was perceiving to be facing in that moment were going to be completely accurate.

And entirely useless. [00:10:00] So, so when I consult with them, yes, I can get immediate, um, access to the, well, you know, the truth about what's happening here and you know what you need to do next. And, you know, they'll, they'll be very clear with the message and it is correct, but you still need to get your leg to put your foot on that step and, you know, lift yourself up onto it.

It's very easy to say to do that. And then, You know, you have to kind of laugh at yourself because we do know better. And so we know better. And yet we're still standing at the step going, I can't do this. And they're like, yeah, you can. So my relationship with Vagrian right now is I think how it's kind of been since the beginning that sort of like my defiance.

Coupled with their complete faith in the fact that, like, my defiance is just a question of time before I agree with them. But it's quite funny when, you know, they're going all is well [00:11:00] and everything is perfect and you're going, yeah, I know, but I don't care. I want to be a little brat for the day. Until I decide I want to take the step onto that next step.

So, um, That said, you know, them repeating things over and over again for the past, I guess it's almost six years now, um, Does erode away at any of your illusions over a while, and you do start to see things the same way that they do, and you do start to eventually have the benefit of that ease that they're offering, because they're not saying don't be human, they're not saying don't have your adventures, or your drama, or your preoccupations, or your insecurity, they're just saying It could be easier if you wanted it to be.

So I'm very aware of the fact now that all of the stuff that happens in my life is very much self [00:12:00] created. It's me who's making it all happen. And I'm also in a space now, it's a really nice space to be in actually. Where, I don't even judge myself for that. I don't, it's like, it's become like it's not suffering, it's just the adventure.

So, it's kind of fun when I get to a new step for myself and go like, oh, I see what's going, I see what's going on here, and I also see the resistance, and I see the playfulness in the, like, me wanting to take three weeks and talk to all my neighbours about what's going on, and whatever it is, I really enjoy the human's process, basically, is what I'm saying.

I love that so much. And I, and I relate to that too, where I've gotten, because I am not a channel, but I do get, I've, I have occasional kind of mystical experiences and the quantum and metaphysical and insights will come in all at once. And of course, being human. We have [00:13:00] the choice about whether we follow this guidance and it, I've had, I mean, one experience in particular stands out and it, it rubbed up against my pride.

My pride is like a very, uh, that's like a big hurdle for me in this life. Like I don't like to ask for help. I don't want to be dependent on people and, and. And there's a part of me that needs to overcome that. I understand that, but it's just this, it's really deeply ingrained within me. And I had this problem and I had this, like, I guess you'd call it a download, but I could just see the solution meant I needed to, like, I needed to ask somebody for help in a very specific way.

And it was so hard for me, but I could see. How it helped on so many levels, like there were so many layers to not only did it fulfill a spiritual aspect for this person who wasn't very spiritual, but it was a way for them to be able to nurture their spiritual life kind [00:14:00] of like indirectly, but for them it was directly and it would bring us closer because I had to be vulnerable with them.

They would get to see me in a different light and understand me in a multi faceted way and I would get the need met that but there were other ways I could go about doing it And I was it was so even though I could see this it offers So much this solution that requires me to like to come up against my pride It was like the highest solution, but I could also go around it and I can do these other things that were simpler because I didn't have to poke at that wound.

Yeah. And I could technically solve this issue, but it wasn't gonna, like, then tick all these boxes, but it was so hard. It was really, really hard. And the funny thing with something like that is, like, probably the biggest box it was [00:15:00] trying to tick was you getting over the pride thing in the first place.

Like, that, it just gave you all those other benefits as well to try to coax you in the direction of what you're truly wanting, which is to be able to be open and vulnerable and, and supported by the universe in the form of other selves. Right. Yes. Yeah. I love that. But it is like, hmm. Or it might be easier.

Might be easier. Yes. Why don't I go into my old patterns? Yes. Right. Let's just move on to that. They've worked so far. Yeah. Exactly. I love it. So when you reflect on the insights that have come through from Vagrian, are there any that have like surprised you or that you found particularly profound either for you or for clients that you've worked with?

There. are so many and what continuously amazes me is the clarity and the speed that they come through at and how on point they seem to be, [00:16:00] you know, in the, in most cases. Sometimes I'll have a situation where there is someone with a lot of resistance that's sitting across from Bagrian and nothing will be shifted, um, but that person will still have whatever process they're meant to have by experience.

But the, You know, they always joke that the message is always the same. They joke that we're only saying the one thing over and over again, and the more I'm exposed to them, the more I realize that that is the case, because every single topic is the same topic, every single human being is on the same journey of expansion and of enlightenment, and we're really all just trying to get to that space where we recognize that that.

You know, there's no difference between your fingerprints and the spirals in the center of a tree if you cut it down or, you know, anything that we are seeing in all of consciousness manifest is always the same thing. And living from that space, I'm 100 percent convinced now, having [00:17:00] heard from them so many times, if you can find a way to shift yourself to live from that space, it doesn't matter whatever would happen in your life, you are going to have a fulfilling and beautiful life.

Just from having that perspective from shifting yourself to be in alignment with the way the universe sees itself. And so that is sort of my own personal goal at this point. How can I live as close to seeing myself the way the universe sees me? And in doing that, also, it shifts you into a space of, ooh, what's fun next to do?

And how can I serve others? And how can I be the most me I get to be, etc, etc. So life really does become a wonderful adventure. And a wonderful game to be playing. So that I think is the biggest sort of impact on myself personally, that this is all had. I love that. And it, it, when you say that it's, they're, they're so funny.

Like, that's kind of how you [00:18:00] started it. They're so funny because they, they joke that, that this is all the same, you know, they say the same thing, but I remember in one of the books, I think it was, um, Seeking Ends when, um, tell me that, tell me the title. Seeking Ends When Sharing Begins. When Sharing Begins.

Yes. Lovely book. If you guys haven't read it, it's really, really great. But I think it was there that I, I heard or I read, came across them saying like, um, we're trying to work on our humor or something like that, but it sounds like they're, they're progressing. Yes. Well, they're, they're very funny. I think the problem with the humor aspect is that.

You know, they've got control of the motor skills and they've got control of some of the movement, but they haven't got much control over inflection and delivery of, of speech, right? And, or facial muscles or, or things like that. And I was recently talking with, uh, Sheila Gillette, who's been channeling Theo for 60 years, I believe.

And I was, we were chatting and I was asking her like, how do you open your eyes [00:19:00] when you're channeling? And like, when did all that happen? And it's funny because even after 60 years, even though Theo is also very funny. The face, it's like Botox, like nothing's moving in the face at all, it doesn't matter.

So it's a really interesting thing. And also it makes you question like, wow, what is human humor? What is the fact that we can express with our faces? What is laughter? Like, these are interesting things, because if those things are not really accessible from, you know, your rental car driver, right, if that's, you know, what Vagabond would be, Are those mechanisms more part of our own soul rather than a mechanism of the brain and body?

So these are the types of things I think about. It's like, if Vagrant doesn't have access to Smiles or to inflection in certain ways. Wow. Maybe that means that that's whatever I'm channeling day to day, etc. So it's like philosophical questions can come up when you're a channel as well. It's [00:20:00] really interesting.

Yes. Well, it comes across as kind of a dry. Humor, which is very funny. I think I love dry humor. So yeah, I get it. I get it. Vagrant. I'm with you. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny though, because when they do deliver a joke, right? So as whereas like if I was to deliver a joke, like there would be a part of me internally, that's laughing.

Right? So when I observed them delivering a joke, there's none of that. Like I said, when I'm channeling, there's not like, I don't sense emotion from them. So I think that that is really an interesting thing to, yeah. To pay attention to. I think our emotional system is not physical. So, you know, I'm very aware that my emotional system is guidance from my soul.

And I don't think Vagran has an emotional system really is what it comes down to. That's fascinating. So it makes me think of like our chakra system and those, you know, we're receiving different levels of energy to different energy centers within the body. Yeah. And I. I don't feel that they're so [00:21:00]much the upper chakras, like physical location, but like very spiritual high realm.

Yeah. And so it's interesting if that part of us is just related to some of the chakras that are lower in our system. I don't know. It's an interesting thought experiment. It's, it's very fascinating. I can't wait till our technology catches up and they can like stick all kinds of nodes and, and figure out like, how is this all running around?

How's this all working? Give me some answers. Yeah. It's so fascinating. Well, how do you feel about channeling? Great. Let's head into it. Uh, it takes a couple of moments and then they will be back here to chat with you and then, um, I'll let you, um, follow the lead of the timing because they don't seem to feel like they have a specific thing, but, um, yeah.

So and I will see you at the end and then you'll have to tell me how it went. Yes. And, and I, and when you're done, we want to be sure to talk about, you've got some really exciting things coming up down the pipeline. So let's make sure that we talk about how, how people [00:22:00] can connect with your work more when you're finished.

Perfect. Okay. So, um, I will see you shortly then. Okay.

Good to know it's you. We are pleased to be with you in this now moment and our. Eager to discuss with you anything you so choose to know more of yourselves. Hello. Hello. Thank you so much for being here. Can we begin by you just introducing yourself to the audience and [00:23:00] sharing your purpose and working with humanity?

Yes. So we are the energy frequency that is. It's able to be picked up by this vessel that would be calibrated to universal consciousness or infinite intelligence, of course, with the limitations of the vessel itself to be able to access whatever is in resonance with that vessel. However, in your combination with This particular experience and vessel you are in of yourself.

Also, what is motoring the ability for these messages to come through? It is through your desire for these messages to come through that everything that is being presented to you has been orchestrated for you to arrive in this down moment to have this orchestration. What is specifically of that universal intelligence being selected to be transmitted by those [00:24:00] who would hear these messages?

Is that of unity consciousness or the transition that your collective is now attempting and succeeding in, in many ways, towards unity consciousness from a space of your prior comfort level in separation consciousness? We have been developing with this vessel modalities to explain these particular aspects and how to live your lives in ways that are in alignment with that particular desire of moving into unity consciousness, including radical self acceptance and the ability to be in your lives, both spiritual and physical simultaneously.

So if we pull that thread a little bit of what you just said, if there was a different combination of people watching now and the recording in the future, would the messages be adapted? In this present moment, [00:25:00] based on the collective that's watching and interacting. Indeed, that is how it works. Our messages are able to be calibrated to aspects outside of time and space.

Therefore, anyone who will ever Have any access to this particular moment in time, whether via recording or in this live moment, or even in memory, will have access to exactly what is required for them to have access to in that then now moment, being as they were taken into consideration and everything in their particular configuration has been taken into consideration as this message has been transmitted.

Oh, wow, that's interesting that you specifically mentioned the memory as well. So we can access different parts of this and may have slightly different memories based on what's appropriate for us. Yes, indeed. Wow. That's, that's [00:26:00] fascinating. Thank you so much. So I'm going to bring Anna in here. Hi, Anna. Well, hi, thank you, Viagra, and thank you, everybody else. Yeah, my question, sorry, I wrote it down. I just wanted to know if sentient beings, human and not human, have spirit guides, how it comes that the most vulnerable of all, like children and animals, can just be abused.

You know, without, as they cannot physically protect themselves, how could they even ask for help from Spirit Guides? Animals cannot talk and children are just not aware. Thank you. We thank you. Yes, so, you do not necessarily need to ask for help from your Spirit Guides, as that is their only role. In your life, therefore, that help is always on the way and simultaneously always being provided in the case of animals or children, those who [00:27:00] cannot defend themselves physically or in positions in which defending themselves or protecting themselves would amass to danger in either emotional or other physical levels, the guidance or the protection that is provided is often on Levels that are not necessarily physical, often on levels, for example, of that child being able to handle the emotions so as to be stored for a later date, what you then call trauma, or to be surviving that situation up until such point as in a later now moment, they will have more clarity or more ability to reassess what has occurred, or In a space where they are simply being carried through those experiences without it damaging them to such an extent as perhaps to someone else it would have done.

There will always be abuse for as so long [00:28:00] as you are experimenting. With whether or not that as a collective is something you will continue to permit and allow, and by that we mean on an energetic level as well. So that particular experience of child abuse is in your collective as service to the collective from the part of the victims of those types of abuses.

In order for those who are still in agreement with the violation of free will, to have enough stimulus and catalyst. So as to perhaps make new decisions for as so long as your collective does have a tolerance for violation of free will, you will have those who violate free will and those who are subject to the violation of free will.

Until such point as it does become so painful for all of you to say no more. And that will occur on an individual level. So while it is horrific to see, and while it is difficult to [00:29:00] digest, nothing has gone wrong when there is or there are situations in which there is a victim and a perpetrator. These Are played out for you so as for you to be stimulated into your knowing that it is incorrect and so as for you to step into your sovereignty of making concessions to remedy this particular collective error.

Sometimes it will take remedying the lighter aspects of things that are wrong up until such point as you get to the heavier aspects. And other times it does take remedying those difficult aspects to get to the lighter ones. But we assure you that your non physical guides are there, are protecting you.

And there is really never anything that has gone so wrong as to not be able to be fixed. Wow. Okay, thank you. [00:30:00] Thank you, Anna. We thank you. We have a question from Allie. I think it's Allie. Um, is, let's see, everything is happening here and now, but from the human experience, the past has happened. So how best to reframe that and step more into our power?

Well, the past cannot take away your power. So that is really in. direct relation to the previous question. As you raise in your own consciousness and you allow yourself, because that is really the key there, is to allow yourself to reclaim your sovereignty, to reclaim your dignity, to reclaim your divinity.

As you allow yourself to raise into that, you can Reframe by saying, the past happened, so what? Because the answer to that question, so what, will either give you information about your sovereignty or give you information where you are giving your power away. So if the answer [00:31:00] to the so what is that you cannot do the thing that you want to do or that you are damaged or that there is no way to continue onwards or whatever it might be that is of a negative Perception, you will feel it, first of all, so your guidance system will tell you that you are inaccurate in your perception of it.

But if that so what is Well, I am stronger now where I am able to defend those who are in the same position that were in that position that I had been in, so I am wiser now, so I am knowing more what I'm desiring. Then those are all very powerful statements to have. Statements so powerful that perhaps even without that negative experience or that past experience, you would not even arrive at.

So if your goal is always to start today from today, then you will never have any issue to do with the past at all. Because then the past is simply information for you of what that you are either having had wanted or do not want to [00:32:00] repeat in the future. Your past is simply more information about where your story is now beginning.

Allow yourself to begin at the beginning, which is always right now. Beautiful. Thank you. And thank you, Allie. Uh, we have a question from Lori that says, before going to bed last night, I heard that, um, you that I was supposed to join this webinar today, even though I didn't know it was happening. Then again this morning, they reminded me to sign up.

So I'm curious what message there is for me or words of wisdom you can share with me. Thank you. Yes. So Lori, you are? Very intuitive and you can have faith, direct faith in that there is communication that comes through to you that is very much trying to speak to you. This particular webinar or this particular encounter is orchestrated, not so that you can come here and find out what it is that we have to say, but so that you can come [00:33:00] here and hear that we are saying that you can trust the information that is directly coming through you.

Which it does do on a regular basis. Beautiful. Well, thank you for heeding the call, Lori. Great to have you. And Fallon says, I've been journeying into certain interdimensional realms recently and found this podcast. I wonder if Vagrian has any information on my potential for that.

Have you met our friend, Lori?

In that, you have been drawn here, to these topics, to these questions, to these answers. Because you are a part of this broadening team. This team of beings who do have access, which are growing in numbers, to universal consciousness from your own [00:34:00] perspective. In your own flavor, with your own filters, in the same way we spoke earlier of these messages being limited in some way due to the filters of the vessel or due to the filters of you yourself hearing them, you have less filters on the messages that come through for yourself.

Now, each and every one of you now hearing this, and yes, we do hear and see you also, like we said. In time space, that is hearing this perhaps many years after it has been recorded, you do suspect correctly your power. You do need to hear it in this now moment that your suspicions are correct. Because as soon as you hear Us say that you are suspecting correctly.

You will begin to allow yourself to step into whatever it is that delightful thing is deep within your heart [00:35:00] that is telling you now is the time to be me.

Beautiful. So we do have a question here from Patty, wondering if his brother has a message for him. Do you have any insight on that for Patty?

There is information for Patty from his brother, but or from the energy that would be recognizable as that particular energy or as that particular signature, which may not be accurate to call at this point, a brother. Okay. Because it is much more. [00:36:00] But what we can say to that is, again, this is one of those experiences where that is not for us to share.

It is not for us to get into the middle of a communication that can be had directly. So for this particular case, we will say that there is the ability to have a far more intimate relationship with this energy than is currently being allowed. There is some level of doubt as to whether or not things are real in terms of the transition to non physical or from the space of telepathic communication that can occur that is beyond the physical realm and also beyond the temporal realm.

But when we are asked questions of this nature, we do have to pause and see if there is consent. and relevance for us to become the intermediaries. In this case, there is not. [00:37:00] Okay, thank you. We thank you. Pia asks, how to awaken to the true self finally?

Allow, allow yourself to do so. Often we've noticed in you, beings, that you are very aware of who you are, but there's some aspect of you that is frightened to know it deeply and to live from it. Frightened that if you were to live from your highest calling, that you would be odd. You would, by the way, because we are noticing that your planet is full of people not living from their highest calling, causing quite a lot of damage in the process.

So yes, you would be a little bit strange. Yes, you would have the self confidence that existence itself has in you. And so that might rub some other selves the wrong [00:38:00] way. You would be following your dreams and your goals. You would be listening to your desires and your passions. You would be challenging yourself in all ways that you need to challenge yourself so as to let go of limiting beliefs.

And all of these things are slightly frightening to you. So, it is useless for us to tell you to let it go and simply be your higher self. Instead, what we will say is, you are courageous. Allow yourself to be frightened and take small steps, anyhow. Allow yourself to experiment with being you, more and more often, to being the realization of that higher self.

Because you do already know exactly what it is. And as you experiment, celebrate the small wins, celebrate that that desire that you had did turn out okay. Celebrate that that expression of love that you gave to that stranger did not [00:39:00] put you in a space of feeling shameful. Whatever it is, take your baby steps towards it because you are courageous and you can survive your fear.

That is beautiful. It gives me chills. Okay, we have Jacinta who is saying she missed out on attending Jesse and Vagrian's live channeling event Self Love Special because of the time zone. She's been curious and wondering if they have a message for her, for me. With regard to self love or anything else.

Thank you.

So we do speak often on self love. It is one of the most important modalities that you can have that would be in alignment with our messaging. You are doing a good job in terms of getting to a space where you are judging [00:40:00] yourself less. Also, you have a higher self that already loves you deeply and really is at this point driving the boat or calling the shots.

So back to that question of fear and doing it anyways, allow yourself to love yourself even if That can be frightening to you. Allow yourself to align with that higher self that already sees you in perfection, already finds it very tender when you do things that you believe are making mistakes or that cause doubt within you.

Allow yourself to be in deep relationship with your higher self because that higher self already does have unconditional love for you. It chose to be you. Therefore, in its choosing to be you, it was not an idiot. You can simply allow yourself to have faith that if there were anything wrong with you, your higher self would not have chosen to be on this journey with you.

[00:41:00] That's so powerful. That makes me wonder too, if you can tell us a little bit about how we Subconsciously are speaking to each other. So I'm thinking about caregivers and the subconscious thoughts or when they're touching the people that they're caring for and the communication that they may be able to communicate to somebody's body and and their being in terms and how that can affect healing.

Do you have any anything to share on that?

Your intention does create reality. If you are finding yourself in a position of being in care for another self, it is important, if you so choose to use that word, to have the intention of love, not the intention of

nonchalance or irrelevance to the way that this is [00:42:00] being transmitted. We would suggest this also for parents, for lovers, for friends, that if you can find yourself coming into a space, whether or not you are capable of doing the thing that you are wanting to do, but having the intention to transmit through whatever it is you are attempting, the sensation or the energy of that love, of that care, of that kindness, then you will automatically transmit that to one another and have the benefit of of having transmitted that.

You see, there is also the aspect of existence, that there is a deep payoff for all of the things that we are sharing with you. There is a payoff that you've been clouded to for loving each other unconditionally. There is a payoff To loving yourself. We shared, yes, in a recent transmission that if you cannot love yourself for yourself, then do it for selfish reasons.

It does [00:43:00] sound funny when it is put that way. But since you seem to run around your entire lives with the desire to be loved by another self, then if you cannot figure out how to love yourself because it is feeling good to you, then love yourself because the payoff is that other people will love you as well.

You see, it is the shortcut. So as you are in a space of caring as well, yes. The payoff is that as you give love, love is returned to you. So your telepathic communication and what you called subconscious communication is indeed one of the avenues to provide yourselves with a wonderful life.

Frank asks, is there a way to call into specific entities that you have channeled or since previously for more channeling, how can we build a connection we can access frequently? [00:44:00] So, it is the equivalent, when you are a channel, of finding a phone number. In a Rolodex, the vessel that we speak with only dials our number, but does have experience, as a child, of having many phone numbers, or of calls, from different energies, from different directions.

Discernment is not picking up the phone when the number that you do not want to speak to calls. They will stop calling. And, having access to specific frequencies is The equivalent of knowing the number of that frequency and putting it into the dial. So practicing with that, recognizing, developing recognition for that energy in so much as to be able to access it is one of the skills that one can develop.

By the way, you do this on a regular basis with the human beings in your life, or even with the animals. When you are thinking of your close friend who lives [00:45:00] across the ocean and you are doing it long enough. Well, they are thinking of you too, and then eventually you do actually actively use a telephone to contact one another, do you not?

This is the same thing with any non physical energy, because humans are indeed, in a grand part, non physical energy. So it is not very much different than using your intention to contact that particular person. And this also is a Skill that is going to gain as you continue to develop technology and as you continue to step more and more into your deeper consciousness, the ability to be done on a much more conscious level.

In other words, your telepathy or what you've seen in science fiction as telepathy is not too far off now. Is it?

That's amazing. Thank you. We thank you. I'm going to ask Steve's question. What did Jesus know when he came to earth? And how can you and we expand our [00:46:00] knowledge of Christ's consciousness?

But Jesus is no different than you, and did know that. In the same way that you are channeling your personality, that being channeled a personality, channeled an energy, that did have access to all of the same things that you have access to, also with much faith that they were accurate. Quite an interesting guidance system.

Quite a large team of what you would call soul guides, et cetera, access to infinite intelligence that then could be transmitted, but also coupled with charisma, coupled with characteristics of [00:47:00]personality, of leadership, of enthusiasm, of devotion, and the combination of these aspects did allow for teaching to reach other selves.

You all have. The ability to access the same information. You all have the ability to develop your skills of charisma and you all have. That same mission. So, when you ask how to bring Christ Consciousness to humanity, first of all, you are already doing it. It is not necessary, specifically, to label it as the property or the information that is specifically related to that entity because they would not do so themselves.

They did not take personal credit for the messages that they were sharing. They said. These are the truths that I have been exposed to, and I would like you to take them on as your truths as well. But it does not mean that those truths came [00:48:00] from that being. They came through that being. They came with that being.

But you have the same truths coming through and with you. So, if it is a desire to step into that energy, then it comes back to what we shared with you earlier. Step into your energy. Step into being as in love with yourself as your higher self sees you. You can even say, if you need to personify your higher self, that your higher self is Christ Consciousness.

Or it is the Buddha. Or it is God. These would not be inaccurate terms. Do what you need to do to help yourself be who you want to be. This is how we would answer this question. That is beautiful. What a great question. Thank you, Steve. I can see that Karen was able to unmute herself. Karen, would you like to ask your question?

I would. Hello, Jessie and the Vagrant and Kara. Hello. Hello. So, um, I'm looking for a little clarity. On as we align [00:49:00] ourselves with our higher selves, the more that we're willing and allowing ourselves to be that in that space, does that change our ability to feel our emotions? Does that shift to a different way of being in the world?

How does that look? Yes, it does indeed. So it does not change your ability to feel your emotions. Emotions will still be felt the same way. If you smash your head against a cabinet, you will end up with a bruise. Because those are systems that are in place specifically for the continuation of your physical vessel.

Your emotions, believe it or not, are in place so as to have you learn things about your physical environment, about what you do want or don't want. And so are in place as mechanisms, as functionalities. However, as you align more and more with your higher self and identify more and more with your higher self, you will have the same experience and give as much importance [00:50:00] to your emotion as you do to your physical sensations.

So, for example, when you do hit your head on that cabinet, it is very painful. In that moment, you do end up with a bruise. But you do not then beat yourself up about the fact that it hurts. You do not then say to yourself, Oh my goodness, I am such an idiot. Why did I do that and spend all of this energy focusing upon the fact that you should not have hurt yourself in the first place.

You did. It's over. You put the bandage on. You don't look in the mirror for the week that you have the black eye, end of story. Same thing with your emotional guidance system. The information that is given to you from your emotions will no longer carry all of the weight that you assigned to it with story.

You will have your heart broken and then you will say, Oh, wow, look at that. I had a belief about something that was not serving me, then I had a situation and circumstance that triggered the belief that was not serving me, I got the information that that belief no longer [00:51:00] serves me, so I closed the kitchen cabinet.

It is really that simple because those two mechanisms on the human level are exactly the same. You have given. Much weight to your emotional system. Because it does hurt more than the physical one. Which is interesting as well when you think about it. Because it is worth more. It does have more information for you than closing the cabinet.

Which is why you tend to dig into your emotions and say, Why do I feel this way? Why am I carrying this around from my childhood? It does not matter. When you are aligning with your higher self, feel the emotions, yes, and you allow them to be felt. You are not afraid of them. You do not make story of them.

They are there today and gone tomorrow. That's beautiful. Thank you so much. We thank you. Thank you, Karen. Wow, Vagrian, this has been really beautiful. Thank you [00:52:00] so much for sharing your energy and all of the wisdom that's come through today. We're all really, really grateful. It has been our pleasure and we do wish and augur all of you a wonderful now moment, moving more and more towards everything that your heart desires through all of the challenges that will bring you all of what you are wanting in terms of your growth and expansion.

And with that, we leave you with the light and the love of a thousand suns.

so much. That was amazing. And everybody had such great questions. Thank you. So Jesse, as you're coming back in here,

okay, I'm back. Are you sorry? That was so weird. It just like blanked out. Oh my gosh. I'm so glad you guys are all [00:53:00] still here. So please, Jesse, you've got some great events coming up. How can people connect with you? Right, so it's, the beginning of this year has really got a lot of movement in it. In March, on March 22nd, I'm going to be in Boulder, Colorado, which is really exciting and doing an intimate one day event there in Boulder.

Um, I just spoke to the host of the event, yesterday and we were talking about how we're going to do like a potluck dinner afterwards and maybe dancing and it's just going to be so fun and exciting to, uh, get together in Boulder. So that'll be a full day event, uh, channeling with Vagri and questions and answers and a lot of transmissions.

Then in April, I'm gonna be back in the States in Florida, uh, between April 12th and 14th. There's two events. One is with Mike Dooley. I don't know if you know him. He's from The Secret and is a manifestation specialist. Really cool. And we're doing a collaborative event on the 12th of April. [00:54:00] And then on the 13th and 14th, I'm doing another Vagrian intensive interview.

Two day event, which is going to be really epic. Now, both of those already have tickets on sale on my website at www. jpherman. com forward slash events. And then the last cool in person thing I'm doing, at least for the beginning of the year, is the Vagran Retreat in May, which is going to be here in Italy, and we are going to eat so much pasta, so if you guys are off carbs, don't join us, because I don't want to see you, I want to see you shoveling pasta into your mouth and grounding really into All of the energies that are here in Italy, and that, again, is going to be an epic four days, I believe.

Yeah, it's four days, that retreat of Transformation with Vagrion. Now, I do these events because when I'm channeling, like I said, I don't really remember anything, and I don't get to have the same experience as you guys get to have. So what I've found is that it's really so wonderful to be able to connect in community, to get to know you guys [00:55:00] personally, to interact, and to then Have that back and forth of energy where I get to experience the people who are enjoying the Vagrant content already.

Um, and then on my website, there's lots of other things going on. I've always got stuff coming out on YouTube for free. I've got a membership site that's opening its doors again in April. So do check out my website and join me for one of these awesome things that we're going to be doing. Amazing, beautiful.

Um, Fallon is asking, is there a link to Jesse's website? It's JPHerman. Just J A P H E R M A N if you're just listening to the audio. Okay, well, this has just been so uplifting and such a joy to connect with you and with everybody who has joined. So, thank you so much.

Thank you. everybody. Thanks, guys. Great to see you. I see some familiar faces. Hi. Awesome. Thanks so much. Have a [00:56:00] great day, everybody.

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