425. Deeper Insights on the Chakras from Higher Consciousness Beings - Phyllis Leavitt

Kara Goodwin: [00:00:00] Welcome to Soul Elevation, where you can guide your ascension to new heights. I'm your host, Cara Goodwin, and I'm excited for you to hear this conversation with Phyllis Levitt. We cover some really profound ground. Phyllis has 50 years of experience as a spiritual seeker on top of 30 years as a psychotherapist and her direct experience has created some fascinating mystical experiences, including automatic writing with a collective of higher consciousness that's given her profound revelations.

And in our episode, she shares really valuable insights on the chakra system, and I highly recommend paying extra attention to what she has to say about shadow work and spiritual bypassing. Seriously, this episode is a gem. Phyllis Leavitt's journey has been deeply enriched by receiving divine guidance on topics like soul path, chakra illumination, [00:01:00] Christ consciousness, and transforming ego consciousness.

As an author, she's shared her insights in A Light in the Darkness and Into the Fire, chronicling her spiritual journey. And in her latest book, America in Therapy, she explores the vital connection between psychological healing and the health of our nation.

Phyllis is passionate about the intersection of psychology and spirituality. And

we'll dive into this episode in just a moment, but first, I'd love for you to check out KaraGoodwin. com where you can get a free 10 minute meditation, learn to meditate with my 21 day online program, or join the healing hearth membership where you can get live online assistance with your questions about meditation and life. I'm also so excited about my book, Your Authentic Awakening, a guide to everyday spiritual living, which will be available this spring. Find more [00:02:00] information about this and so much more on karagoodwin. com. And now enjoy this episode.

So welcome Phyllis. I'm so excited to have you here today.

Thanks for being on the soul elevation podcast.

Phyllis Leavitt: Well, thank you so much for having me. I love what you're doing and I love what you're talking about. So I'm really excited to talk with you.

Kara Goodwin: Well, I'm excited to hear from your experience. You've been a seeker for 50 years and a psychotherapist for over 30 years. So that is a, a wonderful dynamic combination, especially in these times. These are such changing times and such challenging times for people. How does your, and how has your spiritual life informed?

Your therapy practice when you were practicing.

Phyllis Leavitt: You know, that's a wonderful question because I really feel like the two need to come together for so many people in this age. Um, and for me. You know, I was a spiritual seeker long before I knew anything about psychology. I had some very dramatic [00:03:00] spiritual experiences when I was young that seemed to just come out of the blue.

I couldn't control them. I couldn't make them happen. They just happened periodically. And, um, But one of the things that happened for me, and I don't know how common this is, but one of the things that happened for me was that every blast of light, that's kind of how I would describe it, sort of lit up the darkness that I was living in. I had some trauma in childhood that I had buried, um, and so I kept going back to this very dark, scary place, and I couldn't understand why those two went together. Um, for me, and I

Kara Goodwin: Oh, this gives me so many chills. Sorry. I'm just like full body, like, woo, resonance. Okay. Beautiful.

Phyllis Leavitt: Yeah. And actually I got the chills when you said that. so that went on for a while and then when I was in my early twenties and I was in college, I met someone who was in a spiritual group and I joined that spiritual group and I really started [00:04:00] to, you know, want to understand my unconsciousness. I wanted to understand, um, how I could be more of a, uh, more of an agent in making a spiritual connection. I, and I, I was in a number of different spiritual groups and did a number of practices. And, um, I had this beautiful moment, uh, talking to someone in one of the groups that I was in and I could just see that what he wanted was God's love. And at that moment, I really had an aha and the aha was I've been looking for God's love. Which I think is a absolutely or spirit's love or connection with oneness, however you say it, because, you know, where I am is not in a specific church or religion. But in that moment that I saw him, I knew that I wanted people's love and I needed both. And that in some ways, God was my default position not feeling fulfilled in my [00:05:00] relationship life. And that's what turned me to psychotherapy, because I had some healing to do around my childhood. Um, but what happened was, I have always been a writer. I was keeping a journal through my whole healing journey. And one day, I had, Absolute connection to divine source while I was writing in my journal and I began to write messages that weren't coming from my own brain or my own heart. They were

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Phyllis Leavitt: never heard in any of the spiritual practices I had been a part of.

Kara Goodwin: More chills.

Phyllis Leavitt: yeah, and, and it was all loving and wise. There was, and, and I've written for years, I wrote two books about the early part of that journey and the messages that I received, which were really all about what our soul, it was talking to me, but it was universal. it was what all our souls are doing here. What, what is the nature of [00:06:00] unconsciousness and ego consciousness?

And so what I began to put together was that those blasts of light were lighting up where I was stuck in a smaller level of consciousness than my soul really wants to inhabit. so my divine source I'll call because it never had a name. It was always they, not I. Didn't have a name. And when I asked, like, who are you? What they always said was we are a level of consciousness, not an identity, like, you know, like a person's name or something like that. And, and that's always what it felt like. I would feel a very different vibration in my body and in my mind and I would hear things really that I had never heard before. I couldn't have thought them up. So, you know, long story short, I learned prayers and meditations and all about the chakras and how to work with them to [00:07:00] light up that darkness that the light really wants to light up. So I'll let you jump in. That's a, that's a

Kara Goodwin: Yeah, that's fascinating. Oh my goodness. I loved so much of that. I loved all of it. And so many times I was like, Oh my gosh, I want to take it this direction. I want to take it this direction. Um, so one of the things that I want. Because I resonate so much with, you were talking to a person that you had met on your spiritual journey and you were recognizing what this person really wanted was God's love.

And you recognize that even in yourself, but then you also said, but what I wanted was people was the love of humanity, was the love of the people I was interacting with. So let's dive a little bit into that because. I feel that, that, that desire for God in people's lives is like a latent thing that is universal and that we mistake the love that we're not [00:08:00] getting from people, although we're built to love each other and receive that love and give that love.

But I do feel that that is one of those kind of the missing foundational piece for so many people is that they're. Mistaking all the external things that they want. And it's really that they, the completeness comes from that, that opening to the relationship with the divine. Talk a little bit more about your perspective.

When you say, I wanted this, I wanted God's love. I wanted people's love. Like dive in and you saw this in this other person too. I'd love to know more about that. Oh, that's incredible. It sounds like conversations with God. That book.

Phyllis Leavitt: people. We're born, you know, scientifically, we know now that we're born wired for love and connection, and that's on many levels, you know, and I think we're definitely born for, wired for love and connection with other people, and we really suffer, really suffer when we don't [00:09:00] have it, and You know, for me, I think turning to spirit was part of the trying to heal that suffering, but also trying to escape it. what I found was that, um, that a, that a loving source of divine presence in my life took me back to heal what was hurt in my life with other people as part of my spiritual journey, not separate from it. And so I see those two worlds really coming together. The work that I did psychologically to remember what happened to me and move through some of that was really profoundly affected my spiritual journey. And the connection I made to spirit directed me with how best to work with what I had experienced. So, so it really, what happened for me, and I don't know, You know, how many people this happens for, but I don't think it's totally unusual. Is it almost immediately? [00:10:00] Um, after I start and I started this writing, I could ask any question and the download was just waiting to explode. Yeah. And you know, it was, it's my own version

Kara Goodwin: Right.

Phyllis Leavitt: messages that I got, but it was definitely like that. Like I could just ask a question and they would be there with these phenomenal answers that were, that were really universal to humanity and not just to me. But one of the things that happened for me right away was I started to see a past life that was very influential on this life. And. And, it was really helpful because being trained as a psychotherapist, which I, you know, became a psychotherapist during that whole healing journey myself, you look for the antecedents to what's going on now. for myself, I couldn't, I could understand what I, the things that were difficult in my life at [00:11:00] that time through just looking at my childhood, but it seemed like there was more than that. For some reason for me, I had to see some past life experiences that were very traumatic also that weren't integrated and Spirit guided me to integrate those experiences and understand how they were affecting my life now. And so the picture just expanded exponentially of what I was working with and I had, honestly, I had no interest in past lives before that.

So it wasn't something I was tracking or investigating.

Kara Goodwin: It's just fantastic. And, and there are a couple of things that I've, um, that you have said that we would talk about in, um, you know, in circles about in, in spiritual circles, I mean to say, um, in terms of shadow work and spiritual bypassing. And these are so critical and there are, [00:12:00] um, And for me personally, they've been kind of later, like things that have come about later.

I think, um, my, my appreciation of the role of. Really allowing the looking at those shadow aspects, whether it's the traumas, the painful things we've been through, or if it's like parts of ourselves that we don't want to acknowledge, like behaviors that we have that we don't want to acknowledge, but also how that comes in, how spiritual bypassing comes in, where it's like, Nope, I'm just, It's just love and light.

It's all love and light. And that's, you know, my path and, and so forth. But the importance of really like getting that completeness and the alchemy that comes from that. And I would love to expand for you to expand a little bit upon how those two elements have played into your journey.

Phyllis Leavitt: Yeah. I mean, and I totally agree with you with that. And I think actually spiritual bypass is actually a psychological issue. It's avoidance. It's [00:13:00] denial. You know, so you can look at it through that lens. And, um, and sometimes it's, it's really not helpful, but, that was never an option for me. I'm grateful for that. As I said, the light always lit up the darkness. And as you said, it was not just the things that had happened to me that hurt me, but how I unconsciously played some of that out in my life, um, in, in, you know, in ways that I wanted to heal. Um, how I was with other people, how I judged, how I, you know, um, didn't accept certain people the way that I wasn't accepted.

You know, we kind of do what's done to us. the way that I got the messages was never judgmental. And I think the best psychology is never judgmental. It's just understanding where we come from, why we do what we do and how to heal it, not how to beat ourselves up for it. and so I feel like that came to me from both the psychological [00:14:00] realm and the spiritual realm. I have written, you know, since 1994, and I have never received one message that was critical or judgmental. It's all loving, but extremely wise. So What I learned that I think really has brought the two worlds together for me, one of the things, that I was told all about the chakras at one point, how to work with those chakras in myself. And that work with the chakras combines both spiritual and psychological work. And I'll give you a good example. So, Um, if, if you want that,

Kara Goodwin: Yeah, please.

Phyllis Leavitt: when I, you know, all this happened pretty, pretty quickly in the first year of writing, I would notice that especially when I was doing the writing, I would have very strong sensations in my throat and also in my first chakra. As well as my heart. I mean, those [00:15:00] three chakras were kind of lit up by the experience of actually hearing messages from the divine and pretty soon, um, I was told that we all have something called a soul triangle, which is made up of three chakras that we're all working with all the chakras all the time because we're human. um, That we have a chakra that's a chakra of intention, a chakra of force, which is the energies we're kind of working with, and a chakra through which our soul wants to manifest, um, very specifically, that those chakras in particular really are the focus of the beginning work of healing. And that healing is both what, what's going on in our life now, what we might've carried in from other lives, what's influencing us from the astral plane, all of that is very localized in these three chakras as a beginning way to [00:16:00] heal. what they said is the heart the chakra of intention for everyone. We all came here ultimately to express divine love through our human form. where we all came, whether we know that or not, whether we're aware of that or not, or whether we're even behaving in any way like that or not, that's what our soul wants to do. The chakra forces, the energies we work with, and for me, primarily, although, as I said, we're working with all of them. for me, that was the first chakra, and that was, and the way they described that was destruction and creation, birth, death and rebirth, light and dark. And also, uh, an energy that I had never heard ascribed to any chakra before, which they said was the energy of burying and unearthing. So when we start to remember, that is ignited in the first chakra. whether it's childhood [00:17:00] memories of whatever we need to work with in this life, or remembering who we really are as souls and what we're doing here in human form. All of that. Unearthing is a first chakra energy and then for me to throat was the chakra of manifestation, which is connection, communication, dependence, nurturance, all of of what we associate with the throat that. Changed my life. understood my path for the first time. I really understood that, you know, my throat would constrict so often in emotional situations. I knew I had something to say, but I was afraid to say it. And that's why I was always a writer, because there I was free to say and contact what I needed to contact.

And then it became clear, I needed to speak. so all of a sudden I really actually had a path through the wilderness of my [00:18:00] life and it both directed me to heal the negative energies that had impacted my first chakra and were stuck there, um, that were, I said that those were the energies of destruction and creation, of them, and I had a lot of destructive energies, and most of that destructive energy was aimed at myself. Lots of self criticism, lots of naysayer energies, um, lots of believing I wasn't lovable or would never be able to express what I wanted to express in life or find the love I wanted in life. All of that. so I had a path of moving heart energy, love. divine love my first chakra and moving the destructive to the creative and moving that into my throat. And so what they said is we all have a soul triangle part of what I want to write in my next book is how to begin to understand that for ourselves, for anyone, what theirs is and how to work with it. Um, and that's [00:19:00] not in my first two books about my journey.

Kara Goodwin: Wow. Thank you for sharing that. So many things. First of all, I just want to highlight the beautiful way that, what did you say? The path of the wilderness of my life path, a path through the wilderness of my life. Oh my gosh, That's just beautiful. Um, and then, so what you're saying is that everybody has a different combination of the three of them, but the heart is the, of the heart is the same for everybody.

That's the intention.

Phyllis Leavitt: right.

Kara Goodwin: then is the fours, um, one of the, the three lower ones, is it always one of the three lower ones or it could be any of the seven or

Phyllis Leavitt: It could be any of the seven. And what what I have been told over and over again, which I haven't heard in other places, is that there are no lower chakras. They're all equal. I mean, they're lower in your body.

Kara Goodwin: that's what I mean. The anatomy. Yeah.

Phyllis Leavitt: Yeah. Nothing is lower in value. Because I know sometimes when people talk [00:20:00] about the chakras, they talk about the, the, the lower chakras as being sort of more elemental or um, primal or something, but that's not the way they were presented to me.

They're, they said that the chakra energies are associated with something that they called the rays of creation that came into our body in this form. And we're working with all of them. And as our souls become illuminated, they all light up and, um, they all become filled with divine energy. the ego energies begin to be, integrated and transformed as we, uh, you know, meditate and apply the principles of our growth, which is for me, a lot was just following that path. was often the guidance over and over again, move the energy from your heart through any naysayer destructive energies in your first chakra, Move them into the creative and bring that [00:21:00] energy up into your throat and talk and that was a workout for me That was as much psychological work as it was spiritual work Because you know, my my default was to stay hidden and be quiet, even though that's not what I wanted What my heart or my soul really wanted to do.

Kara Goodwin: Wow, I love that. I know you said it's not part of the books that you've written so far and I do want to get to particularly your new book, but would you mind, I know that we're, I don't want to leave people on a cliffhanger of like how you can work with these energies yourself or discover what your triangle is.

Do you have any, any suggestions for listeners about how they can tune into what their triangle is?

Phyllis Leavitt: Yeah, you know I um, Gosh, I'd have to I'd have to give you some kind of outline of what they said each of the chakras contains what energies they work with but if you want I can try to save them really quickly

Kara Goodwin: Sure, let's [00:22:00] try it.

Phyllis Leavitt: yeah, so the first chakra, as I said, was destruction and creation, light and dark, birth, death, and rebirth, and the energies of unearthing,

Kara Goodwin: I loved that, that burying and unearthing that I've not heard before either, and it makes so much sense.

Phyllis Leavitt: Totally,

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Phyllis Leavitt: It was a revelation. It was

Kara Goodwin: Yes.

Phyllis Leavitt: And

Kara Goodwin: That's amazing.

Phyllis Leavitt: studied the chakras

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Phyllis Leavitt: so I had very little association with anything, was actually probably a gift. So the second chakra. Um, is the chakra of the male female. Duality, but in some ways it's the chakra of all the dualities.

Or you could say that all the chakras the ego plane, um, which they call the horizontal plane, are working in dualities, you know, destruction, creation, birth and death. So male and female. So it's the chakra on the illuminated side [00:23:00] of the union of the two coming together to create new life. But in, in the expanded version of the second chakra, the way I was taught is that it's, Beyond just the masculine and feminine, it's, it, it brings those together, but it's really on, on even more expanded level, the energies of reception and transmission. So receiving from the divine and transmitting that out into the world is the second chakra issue. Um, and that gives life, you know, new life to the birth of soul, really. So that's a quick version of that one. and there's a lot more information, but I'll just give you the quickie.

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm

Phyllis Leavitt: they said is the chakra of our will our will manifesting.

So, um, it can be either the will of our ego and our personality, or it can be opening to the will of soul and oneness and God through [00:24:00] us and manifesting, bringing that into manifestation in the world. Um, it's also, The chakra that, um, deals with boundaries. So, could be, and if you think about it, lack of boundaries is a will issue, rigid boundaries are a will issue.

And they're sort of two sides of a dysfunctional coin. so, in healing the solar plexus, we have kind of a semi permeable membrane. We let out what, is appropriate to let out and we let in on what is appropriate and life giving to let in. Heart, pretty clear. Heart is, um, know, love. Heart is love. And when the heart is closed, we know what, what is there. Um, but it's also what they said is the heart chakra itself is the home of the teacher within us. So,

Kara Goodwin: Oh,

Phyllis Leavitt: um, and I, I found that very, very, and again, I have. volumes to [00:25:00] say about all this,

Kara Goodwin: yeah.

Phyllis Leavitt: think about that, that's where the teacher in us resides. And, um, they also said that in a way you could look at the heart as the place where our soul seed got planted. When soul took on this human form, obviously got in all of our chakras and all of our energies, but the soul seed itself is in the heart chakra. And so awakening for many people often happens with an experience of love of some kind. And that's. pretty common. The throat is connection, interconnection, communication, and nurturance. Those are the energies of the throat. And a lot of people that I've encountered have the throat chakra as one of their soul triangle chakras. So many of us have learned to be quiet or, you know, to feel like, you know, we, We're not going to be listened to or we're going to be made a fool of or silenced in some way.

And that's really happening a lot on the earth today. There's a [00:26:00] lot of throat chakra energy going on out there.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Mm-hmm

Phyllis Leavitt: the chakras. Um, the, this is the third eye is the chakra of intelligence, invention, vision, connection to what they call the divine plan. So the downloads that I got, I felt like really. When it came through my third eye, um, they're very, like, very clearly formulated, very much new information, but since, it's like that, that wasn't a blocked chakra for me, and so that wasn't part of my soul triangle, but it was very much activated. As my soul triangle got activated, if that makes sense. And then the crown is our connection to spirit and soul. And, um, and I'll just say this, uh, real quick, and then again, this is why I wanna write this whole book,

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Phyllis Leavitt: um,

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Phyllis Leavitt: humanity has a, a soul triangle that we're, each of our soul [00:27:00] triangles is within the soul triangle of humanity, which is the heart, the first chakra, and the crown. It contains everything. Um, so we're really moving from, you know, the sense of our, our, our mortality and a belief in our mortality to our connection to the divine through all of the experiences that we have on all the other, in all the other energy centers. That's so quick, but

Kara Goodwin: I know. Well, thank you for taking us through that. And it's incredible that all of this came through when you had no foundational knowledge of the chakras, because it marries so well with the, what we do understand already about the chakras, but then there is like information in there that, that fits in so well, but is for me, things that I haven't necessarily come across before or connections.

I haven't necessarily made. With each chakra. So thank you for taking us through that. So I do want to talk [00:28:00] about your, the books that you have written, because I'm excited about this one that, that you is yet to be written, but you have, um, America in therapy is your new book. And I want to talk about the, um, because there's a, the intersection of psychological health and healing in our country that I believe is the focus of this book, but can you talk about.

What made you want to write this book and and what you go into in the book?

Phyllis Leavitt: yeah, and the intersection really isn't in this book. This book is pretty much psychological, just

Kara Goodwin: Okay.

Phyllis Leavitt: because it and really, To tell you the honest truth, I felt like I was ready to write the third book in my series about these divine messages and I was told very clearly to please write this book

Kara Goodwin: Oh Interesting. Okay.

Phyllis Leavitt: Because I think we really need to heal on a psychological level the way that I did.

Kara Goodwin: Mm hmm.

Phyllis Leavitt: and so this book is [00:29:00] really bringing what I understand about the best healing of our traumas of how we've been hurt and how we've hurt others to a national conversation just the bottom line is, having studied family dynamics for so long and really realizing in my own journey and with so many of the people, all the people that I worked really with is that we are so conditioned by our family situation, the values, the gender roles, the, views about success and failure and very much how we deal with diversity and tolerance of our differences and how we deal with conflict because we're suffering so much in our own lives and as humanity and as a country from the ways we deal with conflict and differences of opinion and differences of values that are so destructive to so many people. And that's really the first chakra. Crying out for healing because [00:30:00] we're destroying ourselves on so many levels and we're hurting each other out of our own wounding And that's the non judgmental place that psychology can bring. It's out of our wounding That we're hurting ourselves and others just the way I was and just the way almost everybody I know Um, and it's healing some of that wounding that really actually makes us more open to be the vessels for a higher consciousness. And if there's anything I think we need in the world today, it's a higher consciousness,

Kara Goodwin: Mm hmm. I love it So what are some of the things that you go into in terms of solutions for this? Reconciliation within humanity within our country

Phyllis Leavitt: the reconciliation of,

Kara Goodwin: Of like our reconciling our traumas and our, and our shadows and in order to heal those so that we can be more, more psychologically sound as a society.

Phyllis Leavitt: yeah, I mean, there's so [00:31:00] much and I really, I use a lot of stories and the book is very easy to read and understand. So one of the, one of the things that I've observed over the years is very like a condensation of years of experience is that All of our injuries, all of our worst behaviors, all of our most destructive, murderous, hateful, discriminatory impulses, all come from an injury to love and safe belonging. They all do. I've never met one person who that wasn't true for, even though we have very different stories. about what happened to us and how we internalize what happened to us and how we cope with it. The basic injury is to love and safe belonging for all of us. And so the healing through restoring ourselves to love and safe belonging and bringing that to each other. And for me, Some of that came through my psychological, you know, [00:32:00] just healing the memories of what happened to me, but the opening to spirit is what actually really healed my heart. So, and that's not necessarily everybody's story, but I think that's where they come together because I, I believe that Real spirit, real divine source is loving. It doesn't bring down judgment and hatred and a desire for retribution or call anyone a sinner. It just doesn't. That's never been my experience. And I'll tell you that when I had the very first experience of this presence coming to me in the form that it now speaks to me, I was in a therapy session I

Kara Goodwin: you were the therapist

Phyllis Leavitt: no,

Kara Goodwin: were receiving it. Wow. Okay.

Phyllis Leavitt: was in the middle of processing a lot of pain from childhood trauma. all of a sudden, [00:33:00] literally, this golden light began to shine inside my third eye. And I had this overwhelming experience of divine love, um, actually, how can I say it, somatically or physically enveloping my body as well as my heart and opening my mind to hearing this voice come through. So, was I in a lovable place? Was I even thinking about divine source? No. And I don't believe the divine cares. believe the divine loves us all in exactly the condition that we are and it's accessible to everyone if we have a way to look for it and or an openness to looking for it. I really believe that.

Kara Goodwin: It is interesting to think about the fact that you were in the throes of the shadow while that was happening, and, and kind of clear, maybe we could think about it [00:34:00] as like clearing out, making space for, for this amazing golden light to come in, you know, and, and how important, like it just underscores the importance going back to.

The completeness of who we are, the totality of who we are in the revelation, sometimes that remembrance and the, the acceptance of those shadow parts of ourselves and how that, even though we're in the muck and it seems like a dichotomy or an opposition of that enlightened place. I mean, if we literally think of being in light and from the inside, you know, um, being illuminated from the inside.

But the foundation for that is in the muck, you know, I mean that's profound Beautiful.

Phyllis Leavitt: experience. And you know, psychology is no different.

Kara Goodwin: Mm hmm.

Phyllis Leavitt: it's really like finding a safe passage back into the muck to [00:35:00] restore ourselves, to heal from what buried our essence and our love and our gifts and our strengths and uncover it. So we have to make a safe journey back into the muck.

I think most of us. You know, I can't speak for every human being, but I think, and I think when we understand that and we can hold that for other people who are at the beginning of that journey and say, I know there's light at the end of this tunnel. And because I was one who, who definitely said, I know there's light for other people, but I don't think I'm going to find it. And I think many people feel that way because the dark's pretty dark.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah Wow, Phyllis What what a gift you are because the the fact that you have the psychotherapy background gives credence Into a segment of the population that may not be open to your messages If they were coming from, you know, like, I'm not trying to pick on anybody, but like an astrologist, you know, because there [00:36:00] is for some people, there's a block, but psychotherapy is a bridge where it's like, okay, I can understand that my mental, you know, my mental issues are affecting my life and I can get that far.

But. I'm not ready to think that the stars are affecting my life in any way, but, but you have such a mystical and complete from, from all angles of life that you're embodying in that, but also that groundedness in the psychotherapy and just your ability to convey in such a, an understandable way is, is really a gift.

So, Um, thank you so much for the work that you're doing. Please tell people how they can connect with you and your work.

Phyllis Leavitt: Yeah, thank you so much. Well, I have the first two books are about the beginning of that spiritual journey, and they're called, um, A Light in the Darkness and Into the Fire, and they're both, you know, available from any major bookseller. And then my latest book is [00:37:00] called America in Therapy, and that brings in the spiritual piece, and the book that I really want to write is bringing them together.

I mean, I'm sorry, American Therapy is a psychological piece and the book that I want to write, um, is a lot about the chakras and how to bring the world of psychology and spirit together so that we can actually change what's going on in our lives and on this earth, so that we can be agents of that elevation of consciousness in a very grounded way. And if I can say this really quickly before I just say where you can find me, the whole issue of spiritual bypass. really robs us of the opportunity to heal the muck, which is where, which is what I had, I've had to do, and I've probably been doing that my whole life. It's not like I finished that journey. Um, but I think that's what we desperately need is not to bypass the muck because it's destroying us. And so, you know, I experienced that on an individual level, that the things that [00:38:00] I had internalized were really destructive and were hurting me and hurting my ability to be the loving person that I really wanted to be in the world. Um, so, yeah, you can find me, Bess, on my website, which is www. phyllislevitt. com. And it's P H Y L L I S L E A V I T T, just to tell your listeners, because there's so many ways of spelling both of those names. And I have, um, other interviews on there. I have blogs on there. I have information about my books on there. Um, You can find me on YouTube. I have, a YouTube channel that's for mostly about podcasts about America and therapy. I have another YouTube channel that I will be activating a little bit more, um, in the near future that has some divine meditations on it and a little bit about my earlier work. I'm on, you know, Facebook and LinkedIn and Instagram and those kind of things and you're welcome to anybody who wants to you're welcome to [00:39:00] contact me through my website There's a couple of different ways You can contact me through my website and I'm also at my business address phyllis at phyllis levitt comm and I'm happy to Talk with anyone who's interested

Kara Goodwin: Beautiful. Well, God love you, Phyllis. Thank you for all the work that you're doing. Thank you for being here with me today. And, uh, it's just been really a joy.

Phyllis Leavitt: Well, thank you for having me. You've been incredible. And I'm, I'm just so in awe and grateful for the work that you're doing, because

Kara Goodwin: Thank you.

Phyllis Leavitt: need to be connected on this level more and more, I believe.

Kara Goodwin: Beautiful. Thank you so much.

Phyllis Leavitt: Thank you.

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